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I am the Montgomery County Deputy historian, and I am interviewing James A. Halford Jr, who is the current Chief of Staff of the city of Clarksville. Thank you so much, Mr. Halford, for agreeing to the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=0.0,25.185"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=25.185,26.205"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, we'll first start with stating your full name, even though I just did it, but stating your full name and when you were born and where you were born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=26.205,35.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My name is James Andrew Halford, actually the second. Just, it made it easier to be called Junior, because I got tired of arguing with adults that I was a second and not a junior. Yeah, means the same thing. Now I'm actually named after my father. I was born November the 16th, 1952 in the Red River District on Carpenter Street in Red River.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=35.0,57.4"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow. Carpenter Street, Red River. Explain to me where that is exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=57.4,61.68296"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Carpenter is between Ninth Street and Poston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=61.68296,65.14"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=65.14,65.68"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e It's over a couple of blocks away from the Vulcan site and Frosty Morn. In fact, my father worked over there at the Clarksville Foundry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=65.68,74.74"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, gotcha No kidding. So, what are your parents' names?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=74.74,79.62"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My father's name, of course, is James. My mom's name was Sally. They've both passed away. They've gone, been gone for a while, but Mom was actually from here, actually from Trigg County, Kentucky, and my dad was actually a soldier from Pine Bluff, Arkansas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=79.62,96.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, wow. So that's, did your get to Clarksville from his service?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=96.0,99.78857"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e He got here by being stationed at Fort Campbell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=99.78857,102.6"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Okay, do you know anything about your grandparents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=102.6,106.54"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, my grandparents here were Dan and Etta Foston. In fact, the house where we grew up, it was actually my great grandmother and grandfather's home. My great grandmother was Helen, and uh, Helen Bailey, and her, my great grandfather was actually a railroad. He worked on the railroad, and they actually built a house that's on Poston street. Matter of fact, it's still there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=106.54,135.265"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No kidding, that's really cool. Um. So, your father's parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=135.265,140.545"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My father's parents were in Arkansas, Pine Bluff, Arkansas, and my grandfather's name is Andrew Dan Halford. My grandmother's name is Willie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=140.545,153.19"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, do you know anything about your ancestry beyond your grandparents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=153.19,157.72"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, but most of it's from researching on ancestry.com. On my mom's side, I've been able to get all the way back to Spotsylvania County in Virginia. Wow. On my dad's side, his folks came in from the Gulf Coast and from, up from Alabama and Mississippi. And so, the two coasts kind of came together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=157.72,181.14"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. So, what do you remember about growing up? Did you have siblings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=181.14,186.66"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I did. We got two brothers, middle brothers, Donald Ray, and my youngest brother's named Keith, and we all grew up in a real communal neighborhood there in Red River. So, it was the proverbial kind of, you know, childhood during that time when everybody knew everybody and, you know, I knew everybody else's mother and father, and they knew all of us. And so, anywhere you stop, anywhere you played, was home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=186.66,215.205"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. So, um, where did you go to school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=215.205,219.825"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Went to school, elementary school, we went to Cobb, which was actually located where the Burt Cobb center is now. And so, we went to Cobb Elementary and then, actually, at that time, there wasn't middle school, so when you got you finished with sixth grade, you went to junior high, essentially. And so, then we went to Burt at the time, Burt over on, what, Bailey Street. And so, I went to, I went, matter of fact, I'm part of the last graduating class from Burt High School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=219.825,250.71"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, what year did you graduate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=250.71,252.27"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e 1970.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=252.27,253.47"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e 1970, nice. So, when you were in elementary school, were you involved in any sports, clubs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=253.47,261.375"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm not, I'm not, my brothers are the actual athletes. 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That's back when we had the reel to reel. And so, I did all of that kind of stuff. I learned how to do all of that. And actually that kind of spurred me to always be involved in technology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=269.93806,288.06"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. So, technology was your big interest in high school as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=288.06,291.77259"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=291.77259,292.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. 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So, I learned how to program in some of the early languages, the big, big computers, mainframe computers, and that carried over to wanting to know more about computers. While I was at Burt, I was very active in a lot of organizations. One in particular was the band. And so, I play a number, I play all the saxophones. And my brothers and I, and some of the other kids in the neighborhood, we had a couple of bands, I also play guitar, and we even had a old piano that we, we learned to, learn how to kind of write a little bit, but we didn't, we didn't play it much, and so, the fact that I was in the band, built up a very good relationship with the band director. And the band director there was Mr. Benjamin Madry. He was a graduate of Tennessee State, and he always wanted to try to inspire the students. So, in fact, we would take field trips. So, I went to Tennessee State once on a field trip with him. Not only did we see the football team play, but the band was there. And in addition to that, Tennessee State come had a very strong Air Force ROTC program, so I was able to get a scholarship to Tennessee State, the band scholarship, but I went to rehearsals, and they started rehearsing for band early in the morning, six o'clock in the morning, and several rehearsals a day. And so, I had other academic scholarships, so I didn't pursue a musical career. I actually was more interested in Air Force ROTC and learning how to fly. It was at the same time that Vietnam War was raging, and depending on your draft number, you could be actually drafted out of college and be called to active duty. As it turns out, I said my birth date was November the 16th. But technically, my birthday is actually November the 17th, because I was born around five o'clock or so in the morning. The doctor wrote down the 16th, but it was really the 17th. The fact that he made that mistake meant that when they drew the draft number lotteries in 1970 and '71, November the 17th had a draft lottery number in the two hundreds. But, November 16th had a draft lottery number of twenty-two, so, I was pretty sure I might get drafted out of college. And so, that was my freshman year, so, I had an interest in maybe the military. My dad was military, so I went and signed up for ROTC, and that took me on the course of pursuing not just a military, possible military career, but also learning how to fly. You can see some of my stuff here in the office. 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And so, she exposed us to Bach, synthesizer Bach, all of that kind of music. So, we developed, we all developed a love for all types of music, and so, I didn't focus on any particular type. I just liked all of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=571.9742,621.17514"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you still play?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=621.17514,622.22501"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I still play, but uh, actually it's kinda, my kids are more involved. My daughter is actually uh, doing a lot of work in Nashville. She's been in a lot of videos. She uh, she's been in a lot of the awards shows. She's uh, she calls herself, she's a professional background vocalist, but she also contracts other vocalists. And so, it kinda runs through the family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=622.22501,643.40703"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Kelly, right, is that your daughter's name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=643.40703,645.23055"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=645.23055,645.69211"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Kelly. And so, um, wow. So, did, did you see that musical element in your parents, or your grandparents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=645.69211,655.02437"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My mom and dad both sang. I kinda grew up in two different churches. My mom, my mom was of one, one denomination, my father was a different. So, I saw two different styles of music every other Sunday, we would switch and go to different churches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=655.02437,670.67991"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e If you don't mind, which, which churches? Do you mind if I ask?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=670.67991,673.2819"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, yeah, I don't mind at all. My dad was a member, a long-time member and officer at Saint Peter, right there on Franklin Street. My mom was a member of what is now Greater Faith Temple Church of God and Christ. So, a wide variation, but uh, they made it work. There were never any arguments about any kind of doctrinal differences or anything. Never came up. But uh, yeah, Mom sang in her choir. As a matter of fact, when she was young, she and her sisters were a quartet, one of the few female quartet groups here in the region.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=673.2819,710.9"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they have a name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=710.9,712.1"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they were the Foston sisters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=712.1,714.62"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No kidding, yeah. Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=714.62,716.9"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e They were the Foston sisters. And then my dad sang in the male chorus at St. Peter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=716.9,722.24"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, at the AME Church, right? Yes. And wow. And that AME Church is such an old church here. I don't know how old the one that your mom attended is, in comparison to St. Peter's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=722.24,734.645"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e The Church of God in Christ is not nearly as old a denomination as AME. As it turns out my grandmother, Etta was one of the original members of what is now Greater Faith Temple. They started it as Faith Temple Church of God in Christ. Her, along with a few other ladies, actually started the church and found a pastor. So, they kinda, they were the first ones to start a Church of God in Christ church here in Clarksville. Over on Ninth and Shearor Street right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=734.645,767.99"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, wow. So, so you had that gospel singing in, in your life and that, how did faith play a role in your life? Are you still religious? 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Faith did, in fact, have an impact on my choice of a career not to really pursue music, because, you know, we had been, as I told you, my brothers and I, we, we had bands, and, you know, mom would come in the house with different kinds of music, and mom would say, you know \"I don't know about that.\" Kind of say, well, maybe I better not pursue that as a career, because mom doesn't think that all the kinds of music I'm playing are the right so I kind of shifted focus and got more into the technology side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=782.08,828.37"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, right. And so then, when you took the ROTC, you said an ROTC scholarship at TSU, right, and then entered the Air Force, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=828.37,839.47"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Eventually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=839.47,840.01"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Eventually. How did that play out for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=840.01,842.78346"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e How did it play out? As it turns out, when I got to senior year and I had gotten a full Air Force ROTC scholarship, and in fact, the very first quarter we were still on the quarter system, back then. First quarter of my senior year, I was tapped to be the cadet commander, and so, the entire group there, and it was about 600 students, I was a full colonel, Cadet Colonel commander, and the way things played out, I had also accepted; Once you, back then, when you accepted the scholarship, you had to either decide and accept the responsibility of becoming a missile leader, meaning you would be what, you know, with the missile system, or you had to be a pilot, so of course, I preferred pilot. So, I knew I was going to go, and I'd already started flying. Matter of fact, I'd flown many times to Outlaw Field by that time. However, the challenge was that there's only a limited number of positions at flight school each year, and so, at the time that I was going to graduate, I wasn't going to be able to go immediately into active duty to flight school, so I was going to have to be delayed. Didn't know that at the time. I did know that there was a delay, but I didn't know that there was going to be such a significant delay. So, the Air Force had, was going to allow me to actually be in reserve status and I could pursue a civilian career. Okay, until, and so, I had, I had actually interviewed and had a job offer from Chase, Chase Bank. And, and I went to the final interview, and by that time, they completed their background research, and they said, \"Now we know, we knew that you had been an ROTC cadet and we knew that you had a service obligation, but what is it?\" Well, it's open ended. I don't know when they're going to call me to active duty. And so, because of that, Chase said---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=842.78346,983.03"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Too risky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=983.03,983.91964"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, we can't, we can't offer you the position. So, I had to find, then I had to find a job, because I'm graduating in a few weeks. And I actually was able to, to get a direct hire position at Fort Campbell, as an intern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=983.91964,998.61512"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=998.61512,999.64319"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Okay, and so I went to work there as an intern awaiting to possibly be called up to active duty. But if not, then I'll just continue with my civilian career. As it turns out, I go into work about nine, ten, months later, and a telegram is on my desk saying for me to report to active duty two weeks later. I wasn't able to, because, as it turns out, a new commissary was being built at Fort Campbell, not the current one, but the one in between. And my boss, knowing that I had had project management training, had assigned me as the interim project manager on that, and I couldn't just leave in two weeks. I could leave in a couple of months. So we actually got the Fort Campbell folks involved, and the Air Force waited for two additional months, and then I left for active duty in February, March of '75.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=999.64319,1065.81682"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Where did you go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1065.81682,1067.26105"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Went to Craig Air Force Base in Alabama.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1067.26105,1069.84"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Alabama. Okay, yes. And so, once your active duty started, what did you, what was your job? What did you do then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1069.84,1078.72"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, active duty at the time then. Bear in mind, this is almost fifty years ago now, but when you go on active duty to go to flight school, flight school was very different in the sense that you'd already had your basic training as a, as a senior ROTC cadet. I think between my sophomore and junior years, I'd already gone away for four weeks in Florida, and it was anything. It was not like a vacation. It was actually basic. And so, we compressed what everybody else would do in six or eight weeks, that's four weeks, okay. But by the time I get called to active duty two and a half years or so later, well, flight school is a whole different experience. You're going to college and you're, you're involved. It's very physical, at the same time. And so, it's a, it's really living the life of becoming a pilot eighteen hours a day. And so, we didn't have any children at the time, and that's good, because, but for my wife, I don't know, I don't know what, that I would have made it in the sense that my wife was my study partner, because you have to memorize everything. We're going to be in a small jet. You can't, when you have an emergency or a situation, you can't open up a book. So, you have to memorize everything. And so my wife was my study partner and my guru, and she would, we would go over these things all the time. So, it's a work day that's about eighteen hours. And so, you start your work day about four o'clock in the morning and you finish it, come home, but when you come home, you eat and you study and prep for the next day,.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1078.72,1192.66"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you remember your first flight, the first time you flew?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1192.66,1196.74"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e First time I flew anything, or first time I flew in flight school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1196.74,1200.79649"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Both. (laughing)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1200.79649,1202.05325"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e The first time I flew as a fledgling pilot, and one of the reasons why I wanted to fly was when I was a baby and my dad was still active duty, my mom courageously got on an airplane with a almost one year old to fly to Fort Ord out in California. So, I could tell---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1202.05325,1224.37602"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Were you that baby?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1224.37602,1225.38043"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So, I could tell people, hey, when I was a baby, I flew, so. I've always wanted to fly again, but my first time flying as a fledgling pilot was actually in Nashville while I was still going to TSU, and as an ROTC cadet, and having to fly, that's where we flew our flight. So, my first flight was out at Cold Mill Air Park. It's no longer functioning as a as an air park. It's very close to and right on the river. It's very close to Opryland. Matter of fact, I think it's right across or down the river from the Opryland complex. And so, I went over there, Cornelia Fort, Cold Mill Air Park. And so, I went over there and started flying little Cessnas. And you know, as things progress from time to time, if you have to kind of do cross country. I would do my cross countries to Outlaw Field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1225.38043,1283.68779"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1283.68779,1284.47805"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Outlaw field, or up to Bowling Green and back, or to Springfield and back, and so, yeah, the very first experience, I wasn't afraid. As a matter of fact, this, I wanted to hurry and get to solo. So, so, the day I soloed, my instructor pilot said, \"You think you're ready?\" He had an attitude, so, I had an attitude. I said, \"I'm ready.\" He said, he said, \"Well, I'm getting out of here.\" I said, \"I can't wait, I can't wait till you get out of here.\" And he said, \"You go, don't kill yourself.\" When he got out, he said, \"Don't kill yourself.\" I said, \"I won't, but I'd be glad when you get out of here, so I don't kill you.\" So, he got out, and I took off and made it around the pattern a couple of times. I did touch and goes, and then I landed. It was okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1284.47805,1332.95"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember the first time you took your wife, wife up in a flight?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1332.95,1337.09"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I never took my wife up in small planes. The first time my wife actually flew, and I was in the cockpit. She was allowed to fly when I was flying at Andrews. She was allowed to fly with us, and so we took all the wives up. So, my wife got to see me on the job, standing there in the small business style jet there at Andrews up in DC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1337.09,1358.6"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, so that's nice, yeah, especially after she studied with you so hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1358.6,1363.06"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e She finally got to see the, got to see the get to see the payoff, with that. Yeah, the benefit of her investment in time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1363.06,1368.29165"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. So, how long were you in Alabama?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1368.29165,1371.58"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e We were in Alabama from '75 all the way through '77.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1371.58,1377.34"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So, a while. Where'd you go after that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1377.34,1379.3951"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what happened was that they went through a base reduction and closure, and it was the Air Force's intent to move out of Craig Air Force Base and reduce the number of undergraduate pilot training bases. And so, the word I got was that I had been chosen to go to fly at Andrews, because Andrews is the home of the Presidential Wing. And so, they told me that, you know, there was a reason why I had been chosen. Now, glad to go, but the reality is, I tried not to go because I just thought it was any other assignment. We had kind of gotten into a habit of every month or a couple of months we'd come back home, and we weren't gonna be able to do that easily. And so, I said, \"Can I go somewhere else? Can I go to Montgomery? Can we go to...\" And so, God didn't see it that way. And thankfully he didn't. And so, we, we went ahead and moved later in the summer of '77 to Andrews Air Force Base and got assigned to a flight in what's the Presidential Wing, the VIP wing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1379.3951,1451.34"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right? And so, that's a huge shift, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1451.34,1454.0688"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e It is, it is, yeah. Cause now I got to deal with passengers instead of students, teaching students how to fly. Now I've got to fly with passengers, and not just any kind of passengers, but VIPs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1454.0688,1466.53846"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e (coughing) Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1466.53846,1468.17178"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e And these VIPs aren't just US government VIPs. They're also foreign VIPs. So, I've flown with any number of foreign dignitaries. Had the opportunity to, to fly the Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time, several times, flown with Andrew Young, Zbigniew Brzezinski when he was a security advisor. And then a frequent, I had, one of my most frequent passengers was uh, President Carter's brother. So, I flew through him a lot of times, and members of the family sometimes, so. It was, it was good, it was a great opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1468.17178,1512.27993"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. How long were you there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1512.27993,1513.79184"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e We were there from '77 until '81.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1513.79184,1517.79475"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e '81. So, that's a, that's a good stretch that you were there. You lived in DC or Maryland?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1517.79475,1523.06"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I actually lived on base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1523.06,1524.88717"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e On base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1524.88717,1525.12687"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e At Andrews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1525.12687,1525.87421"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1525.87421,1526.7016"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e You need to be able to respond. As a matter of fact, you need to be, we used to have what they call alert duty. And on alert duty if you get called, because you have to either go somewhere or take someone somewhere, you have to be able to get off the ground, VIPs off the ground, within two hours. So, by living on base, sometimes it's inconvenient, because the other guys live off base, and you live on base and you're sitting alert, they expect you to go no matter what. Andrews is one of the few bases where it is rare, it can't be closed because of weather except by the Department of Defense, not the base commander, but Department of Defense. And so, all the time that I was there, Andrews only was ever closed once. Okay. It just so happens that, because we were on base, it had snowed once, and I was on alert, and I actually walked, I got I got launched, I got alerted during the snow, and I walked from our quarters to, to the, to the airport operation then and flew. Because VIPs got to go, they got to go. A lot of people don't realize that you can fly in the snow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1526.7016,1610.39729"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e In the snow, yeah. What's one of your most treacherous flights, scariest flights? Or have you had any?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1610.39729,1618.48"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I could, had a few. I've had, I've had a couple of near misses, visual near misses, where we barely saw each other in time to avoid it. But, I guess one of the most treacherous times that I had was flying out of Boston. I forget the name of the airport there, but flying out of Boston, when you fly to Andrews, there are a lot of times when not your first pilot, but the copilot. Sometimes on an aircraft, there are three, and we have you got the pilot in command, what most people think of as the copilot might be a guy that actually is the first pilot, meaning that he's got more time. And sometimes you have a third pilot who's a copilot. And that a lot of times, that would be some of the guys who are assigned to the Pentagon and don't fly on a daily basis. Maybe they fly just frequently enough to to maintain what we call their currency, and my most treacherous flight was flying once out of Logan, out of Boston, with a copilot, and uh, that's fine. He'd got time. He's rated, but he has not, this guy had not been a pilot who had flown in and out of Logan. As it turns out, Logan, one of the departures, takes you out, really, over, over the ocean, and the curvature of the earth, you know. So what happens is we're on takeoff, and as soon as we start lifting off, he starts pushing the controls back down. And so, I think, I've got it, take it away from and ask him, \"What are you doing?\" And he said, \"I saw some lights. I thought we were going to run into somebody.\" And I said, \"Sir, that's not what that is.\" I said, \"Sir, this we're taking off toward the ocean, and that's the curvature the Earth. Those are ships.\" But if you don't know that, and you're not prepared for that, it's your first time. So, we had a practice. We never let a pilot go to a place he had not flown in because the VIP don't just fly in to military installations. Like we flew everywhere. We flew to Boston, Logan, we flew to Denver, we flew to Chicago. And so, each airport has its own kind of operating idiosyncrasies, I guess you'd call it. And so, that was probably the most treacherous time. Wasn't the only time that I had some issues, but that was the time when I was closest to the ground.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1618.48,1788.43704"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure, sure. (laughing) Said \"No, no, I have to take over.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1788.43704,1792.35761"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e And yeah, I've had other incidents, you know, high up, but close to the ground, like that was, that was probably the scariest I've ever had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1792.35761,1799.27537"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, I bet. (laughing) Did you have kids while you were there in DC or after?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1799.27537,1805.26456"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually, we didn't have any kids the whole first six years we were married. And then finally, Kelly came along in 1980, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1805.26456,1814.36969"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So right before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1814.36969,1815.48871"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, right. Yeah, right before. And then a brother came along fifteen months later in '81 so, right at the tail end of me finishing up my commitment, because back then, your commitment was six years total. Yeah, now I think the commitments a little bit longer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1815.48871,1833.02"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, wow. So, your wife, then, what did she do while you were there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1833.02,1839.45043"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Be a wife.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1839.45043,1840.28398"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, okay, just, just curious on her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1840.28398,1843.22"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I gotta, I gotta spoil her that way. I mean, she could do whatever she wants. She actually had, had been taking some courses at the, the Prince George's Community College, and she wanted to kind of get into early childhood education. But then Kelly came along, I said, \"Educate that one.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1843.22,1860.9"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yes, yes. So, she got to spend that time with her, and that's great. So, after DC, did you come back here or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1860.9,1869.55389"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not right away. After DC and my son Patrick, had come along, we were making a decision whether we were going to stay or get out, stay or get out. A lot had to do with what, what the follow on assignment was going to be. The Air Force had done a bait and switch on me. They had said, \"You can stay in Andrews and we'll just switch you to a larger aircraft.\" And then time came and they switched and said, \"Oh no, we're going to move you to, to out to Washington State.\" Well, actually, two years before that, I had actually already started interviewing, as if I was going to to go ahead and get out and go into the civilian world. I read somewhere, I seen somewhere that, depending on the level of income that you want to make you, you need to, to, you know, start searching far in advance. The first a year out is when I got really serious. And by the time we were ready to get out, I had some offers. As a matter of fact, I had an offer from General Electric. 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He had taken office by '81.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1944.26,1956.4545"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1956.4545,1956.875"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e And so big shifts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1956.875,1958.96054"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a big shift.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1958.96054,1960.22946"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1960.22946,1960.91184"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Big shift going on. General Electric was growing their space division. They were already in aerospace, because they were already building aircraft engines and all this other stuff. And so, they were in a lot of other areas too. And so, I had interviewed with them, getting hired by them, and they had a big presence around DC, and so I got, I was working for them as a technical systems engineer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1960.91184,1986.5671"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. How long were you there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1986.5671,1988.05166"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Just a year. Just a year. My wife had had, when, before she had Kelly, she had actually had a stroke, and so, she was able to recover from that, but right after she had my son, she had a second stroke, and so, I thought it might be better to be closer to home and closer to family, in case she didn't overcome. Most people would not know my wife ever had a single stroke. She's had, she's had two, and you would know it now. But we decided to come home, if we could get home. And so, I was able, because I had worked at Fort Campbell before, I had some connections, and I was able to hire and get back to Fort Campbell. And so, we came back home after a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=1988.05166,2039.62"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And so, you've been here since. Have you been here since?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2039.62,2043.66"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Been back in Clarksville, ever since, went to work at Fort Campbell in '82 and retired in 2017.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2043.66,2051.46"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow. That's a long time at Fort Campbell. What did you do at Fort Campbell?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2051.46,2055.54981"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, I started out, of course, way, way back I was an in, a supply systems intern, but, by the time I came back, I came back and became a management analyst, and worked my way up from being a management analyst to the director of strategic planning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2055.54981,2073.92"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow. Of the whole base right","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2073.92,2077.05714"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, for the garrison side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2077.05714,2078.6"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Gotcha. Wow. And then so your kids grew up here, back in Clarksville, where you had grown up. Your wife, is she from Clarksville?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2078.6,2089.2958"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, she is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2089.2958,2090.15295"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you all meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2090.15295,2092.21597"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e At Burt, at school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2092.21597,2093.86639"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e At school, okay, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2093.86639,2095.06738"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e So, I've known my wife since we were in, since I was, she's a year younger. Well, she's not a year younger, she's a few months younger, but she was, what grade were we in? I guess, I think I was in eighth, ninth grade. She was in eighth grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2095.06738,2112.93807"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. What's her name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2112.93807,2114.44029"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Patricia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2114.44029,2114.83008"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Patricia. Her maiden name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2114.83008,2116.82168"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Quarles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2116.82168,2117.77595"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Quarles, yes. And so is she?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2117.77595,2119.82876"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e So, her folks are from the Woodlawn area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2119.82876,2122.7"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, Woodlawn area, and you met in eighth, ninth grade? And so when did you start dating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2122.7,2132.03545"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you know, you're too young to date back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2132.03545,2134.5221"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, right. 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You know, it was on again, off again. I'm not really sure. She's not really sure, so, there was a boyfriend or a girlfriend in between.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2146.42,2155.4271"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, where did you get married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2155.4271,2157.62174"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Got married, matter of fact, we got married at. She was actually, she grew up in Lincoln homes, and so we, when we got married, we actually got married one Saturday afternoon over there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2157.62174,2168.88"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, at Lincoln homes and her, at her family's place. Yes, oh, that's cool. Um, did you honeymoon or anything like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2168.88,2177.62684"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2177.62684,2178.23392"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Just curious. No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2178.23392,2178.90037"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. Who's got time and money for honeymoons in 19, 1974. 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She, he will not cruise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2198.84,2202.24952"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2202.24952,2202.9498"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, too much water.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2202.9498,2205.94"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, she likes to fly as well, so, that's really cool. So, you came back here and got your two kids, where did they end up going to school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2205.94,2215.70545"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e They both, yeah, they were in the school system, and they both graduated from Clarksville High.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2215.70545,2221.5"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Clarksville High School. Yes, and then, are they still here in this area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2221.5,2226.42689"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e They are right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2226.42689,2226.87993"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e I know you said Kelly is in Nashville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2226.87993,2228.7"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Patrick is too, but they both, they went away, a year apart. Kelly went to Howard. She didn't finish, but she didn't finish at Howard. But she has her master's now, just don't ask me the name of the university. So, but Howard's a private school. So of course, we were bankrupt. A year later. I'll tell you a story about that in a minute. But a year later, her brother went to Tuskegee. Another private school. I had tried to convince them. I had tried to bribe them to go to Tennessee State, or just go, go to Tennessee State or Fisk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2228.7,2269.77407"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Your alma mater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2269.77407,2270.79637"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Not only my alma mater, but if you go to Tennessee State, your mom and I will buy a duplex, and you guys can share one side and rent the other side and keep the income.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2270.79637,2282.91841"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e There you go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2282.91841,2283.788"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Or use, you know, one, stay on one side, one stay on the other and we'll buy you both used cars. And they wouldn't go for it. I said, \"Okay, or you're going out, if you're going out of state, no car and, and you guys are gonna have to stay on campus.\" Yeah. But they both went.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2283.788,2304.38"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. 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And if you show your kids the horizon, they may just take off and go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2309.47,2314.52549"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the truth. 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Matter of fact---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2325.46,2331.29002"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e That's cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2331.29002,2332.316"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I knew that's how I remember the name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2332.316,2335.05"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Right in the middle of the interview, I was like, \"Wait a second, last name.\" And then I saw a picture over there. 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Yeah, small world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2342.46,2345.28"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe it'll come back to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2345.28,2346.54"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I don't know you said, but that's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2346.54,2348.8118"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, about how we were bankrupt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2348.8118,2350.74717"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e It was something about her going to Howard and a funny story, you said. Maybe, but I don't know, I thought it was something else. Oh, well, that's all right. We'll circle back to it, or it'll pop back in your brain. Um, a few things about your, you said you were born in '52? '52. So, do you remember when Wilma Rudolph went to the Olympics? Do you have any memory of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2350.74717,2373.0215"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Now I remember it because, one of the reasons I remember this because back then, when something big would happen, we'd stop, they'd stop classes at school, and everybody would watch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2373.0215,2389.26556"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e That's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2389.26556,2390.23145"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Especially if it was on during the daytime. You know, World Series or anything else. So, I knew about it. Didn't know that I was sitting there with her cousins, and didn't know all of that. But what, what made it really memorable was one of the few times that a set of my first cousins, my dad's only, my dad's brother and his kids came up, and one of my cousins wanted to go to TSU, because that's where Wilma went. And so, early on, even before my experience there with Mr. Madry in the band and going there myself, my cousin wanted to go to TSU, well, Tennessee A\u0026I at the time. She wanted to go there. 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Do you remember the parade at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2449.18,2452.20383"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2452.20383,2452.84923"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't remember. Yeah, you would have been about eight, I guess, or so. Yeah, just curious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2452.84923,2458.72"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e What I remember is that my parents weren't going. I think I remember asking, \"Are we going?\" And I remember, no, they weren't going, because they thought that there would probably be some kind of a ruckus. 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Now, didn't always happen. But, you know, a lot of times folks would think, well, it didn't happen because we avoided doing anything that would trigger that. But it was always the fear of the threat of violence, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2485.4251,2507.68"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. 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Matter of fact, I had several, had a lot of white classmates and teachers, because by then, it integrated '60, the '64, '65, '66 timeframe, schools integrated. And so, by the time I got to, to a freshman in high school, we had, we had some integrated classes, and we had several white teachers, whereas before that, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2517.18498,2555.13361"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No, right, right. And I know Clarksville was had like, a slower roll out, you know, based on, the elementary schools, I think were the last maybe to integrate here in Montgomery County, from what I've read. 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But, you know, I don't know, what's a good word for it? We were, it was a lot of, maybe it's melancholy the word, it was a lot of melancholy about what was going to happen. In fact, there's a forward in the in the last annual. 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And so, you know, there was a connection there, even within the family. 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Because their presence was so, to me, I mean, I don't know, was so big it seemed, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2750.0191,2757.34"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e It was big. And I'm sure, if I was an adult, I could articulate a little bit better, but, but they were missed. And in the community, you know, we had one. We, I can remember we had another doctor, Dr. Pannell. 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And so, we wanted to come back to a little bit of a slower pace, and we did, but we also wanted to be wanted things to speed up, and they, they gradually did. So, Clarksville in the in the '80s wasn't a lot like Clarksville in the '60s. You know, it had started to evolve, started to be more of a cosmopolitan community, not Nashville, not wanting to be Nashville. If we want to go to Nashville, we knew there was just an hour away, but we could still be us, and I think that's what people, some people are growing up saying, \"Well, we're losing us,\" but it's still a lot like it was. 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Yes, because you were a systems, analyst, analyst as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2930.671,2935.60316"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Systems analyst, but then, like I said, the strategic planner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2935.60316,2937.65496"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Planning and strategic management, yes. So, all of that. So, you started 2019 as Chief of Staff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2937.65496,2946.74811"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2946.74811,2947.22573"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, I'll ask you a few follow up questions here too, that you were a VIP pilot of the Presidential 89th Airlift Wing at Air Force, at Andrews Air Force Base. 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So, how many planes are in that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=2966.38937,2972.66"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't, I don't know the number now, because, of course, it's changed, but I'll sell you something you probably already know, Air Force One is not a particular plane. It's whatever Air Force plane the President's on. But the reality is that there are two, sometimes as many as three there, hangar there at Andrews. There's an alternate kind of in the middle of the country. At the time when I was in there was an alternate at Omaha at Strategic Air Command. And then there's about, within that wing, there were the larger planes. There was a mid-sized plane that could carry about 20 passengers. And then there were the smaller ones. 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I'd hazard that there's probably don't, don't hold me to the official number, but I'd hazard there's probably 60.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3026.47807,3036.2"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, when you're saying, like VIP pilot, that's a pretty good group of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3036.2,3042.52"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it's a special designation. Matter of fact, at the time I was in, they would call, you'd be a Sam Fox Special Air Missions Fox Pilot. And to get the designation, you've got to have so many X number of hours. You also got to have some particular VIP training, because you're going to be handling dignitaries. And uh, you need to have, you know, you need to be kind of familiar with some foreign languages. Be easier now, because you know you can get it, you can get an earpiece translator, but you needed to know some of the basics, and then you had to kind of have a grasp of some of the foreign culture that you're going to interact with. And got to be a fairly decent pilot, because some of the weather you're going to fly in, some of the situations aren't going to be ideal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3042.52,3092.93476"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right? And you definitely don't want to VIP complaining about you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3092.93476,3096.23107"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3096.23107,3097.5978"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, that wouldn't be good. Um, do you ever have a moment where you thought, \"Wow, I mean, this is not, this, I never expected this.\" I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3097.5978,3113.47303"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I had a lot of them. I had a lot of them. When you say that, what makes me smile is I remember specifically one day when I was uh, when I had made through flight school, and I came back as an instructor. So, I was an instructor, and you don't always have a student in the back seat or the front seat, because sometimes instructors had to be able to fly even in the back. And I was taxing out, me and another instructor. We just gonna go up and drive each other, do some of the Tom Cruise stuff. We gonna go be like Maverick and some air to air things. And I was taxing out, and I had the canopy up and I had my, kind of being Joe Cool, and I'm thinking, \"Man,\" I look around, I said, \"Who would ever thought that a kid from Carpenter Street in Clarksville, Tennessee, would be out here doing this?\" I said, \"Yeah, yeah. Who'd ever thought this?\" Yeah, I had a moment like that. That was a good one. A high time. There was another time when we were flying through some particularly bad weather. And I think I had a two-star general in the back, and he came forward. He said, \"re we going to be able to make it, Jimmy?\" I said, \"Sir, you got the best pilots in the Air Force up here.\" And he said, \"I got confidence in you.\" I said, \"Sir, I wasn't talking about me. I was talking about him.\" I pointed at the other guy, and we just kind of laughed about it. We made it. I'm here. We made it. But it was, it was a rough night. That night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3113.47303,3208.35105"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Did you ever meet anybody and think I'm amazed that I'm truly meeting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3208.35105,3216.8"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you mean the people that we got to meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3216.8,3218.74248"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3218.74248,3219.12943"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, like Andrew Young and Brzezinski, uh, uh, Cyrus Vance, even the members of, of President Carter's family. And then even, even beyond that, I mean, even since that time when I've been out of the Air Force, and Pat was with me once because I, I was a Malcolm Baldrige examiner, and so Pat was with me when uh, what's his name... Bill, the President","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3219.12943,3259.78582"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Clinton?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3259.78582,3260.31725"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Clinton. Pat was with me once, and I was doing a session. This was after I was out of the Air Force. Matter of fact, I was working at Fort Campbell, but I was a National Baldrige examiner, and we were there at the Baldrige, the National Baldrige awards, and President Clinton was coming down and, and so she got to be there when President Clinton was there. So, she's met a lot of people just from, from the career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3260.31725,3288.22"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, oh, yeah, I bet, which is a nice that you got to share it, you know, with your wife. And so, you've won a bunch of honors that I do want to mention. Army Superior Civilian Service Award, Army Meritorious Civilian Service Award, Commander's Award for Civilian Service, and Army Achievement Medal for Civilian Service, plus the city of Clarksville Citizen of the Year, Employee of the Year, and Fort Campbell's Civilian Employee of the Year, and a USAF Commendation Medal, distinguished ROTC graduate and magna cum laude of Tennessee State University. So quite a list of honors that you've received. And how does it feel to get Civilian Service Awards when you've been both, right, active duty, and?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3288.22,3344.92"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e We used to have a, or the or the military used to have a saying that, or they tried to tell us and make us feel that our civilian service was just as important. And then, having been active duty, military and civilian service, I, for one, feel that it was just as important. Now, not everybody does, but I do. As a veteran, I know what it takes and it those civilians are just as valuable to our defense effort as the active duty soldiers are. They don't do the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3344.92,3377.4"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3377.4,3378.34667"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e But believe it or not, some of the civilians are actually put in harm's way as well. So, they're not the military, active duty folks aren't the only folks that get shot at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3378.34667,3388.01814"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, right? Absolutely. And then your community service, um, you've served in so many capacities, in different boards, from the housing authority to the Matthew Walker Comprehensive Health Center. Can you talk about at least one of them that's meant a lot to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3388.01814,3409.78"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I guess I'd talk more about the Matthew Walker because we even maintain a connection now, even though I'm no longer active on the board, Pat and I use them as our primary that's our primary care folks, and so I have that much confidence in them. A lot of people kind of think that when you use a public health clinic, that's a free clinic. It's not a free clinic. The doctors there are just as competent. They do receive insurance payments and regular payments like everybody else, but I'm confident that they are giving us the best possible care. And Pat's favorite doctor is the doctor that's at the Matthew Walker clinic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3409.78,3450.8"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and they have dentists at the Matthew Walker, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3450.8,3453.11311"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e They do have dentists. As a matter of fact, I think they have got a partnership with, I don't know if Vanderbilt. They've got a partnership where they are part of the training and development for dentists now that they do at the Nashville campus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3453.11311,3469.48"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And because I think healthcare is so important to everyone, whether you have um, insurance through the military or you're civilian, you've got to pay for your insurance. I mean, it's just a big deal for people, so, yeah, for you to have served on that, I think is, speaks to what's important to us, you know right now that we're going through. Um, so, you told us about Kelly. She's in Nashville. You have grandchildren?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3469.48,3503.16485"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Got, five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3503.16485,3504.36788"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Five grandchildren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3504.36788,3505.78392"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3505.78392,3506.62977"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Are they Kelly or Patrick, both's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3506.62977,3509.18"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Both have children. The two oldest grandchildren, Michael Andrew and Christian are Kelly's. Michael Andrew, of course, you know grandson. Christian Simone, that's Kelly's daughter. They're involved now, Michael is actually a project manager, so he, he's away right now. As a matter of fact, he's in the DC region, working with his dad. They're doing some projects. I think he's told me they're supposed to start working on an apartment complex here later in the fall. Christian is into technology and audio visual things, so she's got a, a YouTube channel that she's trying to develop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3509.18,3557.44085"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e How old are they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3557.44085,3558.68791"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, Michael Andrew just turned 22 and Christian is 19 going on 20.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3558.68791,3565.31"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes. So, adults [unintelligible]. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3565.31,3568.22612"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's what I like to think of them as dad, but you know, I'm grandpa, so they're always itty bitties to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3568.22612,3575.73058"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. So, were you able to spend a lot of time with them while they were growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3575.73058,3579.98212"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, oh yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3579.98212,3581.64391"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e And, and enjoy your grandparent years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3581.64391,3584.73748"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3584.73748,3585.35494"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3585.35494,3585.82"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e And then Patrick has three daughters. So, he's got, Jackie is a, a dancer. As a matter of fact, she is in the, she had just has become part of the middle school company and a professional group, the Georgia Dance Theatre group. So, she's doing that. She's got her younger sister, Marisol, who is taking up piano. And then the youngest is Bo. And Bo is a girl. So, Bo is actually an artisan, so, she's much like her dad. They, they do a lot of artwork.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3585.82,3627.68"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Nice. So, you've got a really big, big and growing family, yeah, and with a lot of talent. So, um, had a question on the tip of my tongue and it just went out of my head. Oh yes, I remember. Going back to your parents. So, how did your parents pass away, and when?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3627.68,3659.37"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My parents, my mom passed away in 2013 she was just short of, let's see she'd born 1919, so she passed away a little bit more than a month before her birthday, because she's born in November of 1919, and my dad passed away in, a little bit, almost a year later, in 2014. And both of them, mom's, whatever that is, 90 something, and dad had just turned 90, and so just process of time. And you know, these bodies wear out, so their bodies just wore out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3659.37,3704.46117"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a long life you have to look forward to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3704.46117,3708.05033"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Ahh, maybe, we'll see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3708.05033,3710.39665"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, um, and your parents stayed here through the, their whole lives. Did you ever go back to Arkansas to visit your grandparents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3710.39665,3720.76"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e All the time. Yeah, I mean annually, until, from the time I was, as far back as I can remember, three or four, up to at least, you know, by the time I got to my, the summer before I went away to college, and that was the last time I went annually. Yes, after that time, then I would go myself. I went a couple times, as a matter of fact, on the way to pilot instructor school, I stayed for a few days with my grandparents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3720.76,3752.24"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, that's nice. So, you kept that Arkansas connection. That's your dad's family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3752.24,3757.90552"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3757.90552,3758.01725"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e That Arkansas connection. Do you still have family in Arkansas that you're connected to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3758.01725,3761.42411"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3761.42411,3763.38331"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's great. Um, and then---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3763.38331,3765.2074"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Can I take a break for second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3765.2074,3766.57892"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, we can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3766.57892,3767.51888"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3767.51888,3768.04"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so a couple more follow up questions. We were talking about your parents, right? Yes, and your grandparents going back to visit um, Arkansas. And your wife's family was here, so. And your siblings, are they still alive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3768.04,3791.94"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3791.94,3793.11767"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e All three, both, you had two brothers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3793.11767,3794.58262"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Both, both, I have two brothers. My brother, they're both working. I always kind of joke with folks that people ask about me working. I'm 72, I'll be 73 come November. And people, you know, \"If you already retired, why are you working?\" I said, \"Well, I got to maintain, you know, the family standard.\" I said, \"As far as I know, no Halford man ever retires really, before 79.\" So I said, \"My dad worked, my uncle worked, my granddads both worked.\" I said, \"So, work is not bad.\" I said, \"You just got to not be in a place where you don't want to be.\" But if you heard the proverbial saying about, if you know, you find something you like to do and you get paid for it, well, I kind of like doing what I'm doing. I kind of even said this, I remember back being in a in a class over at Burt when we were in high school, and teachers said, \"Well, what do you want to do when you grow up?\" And I said, \"Well, I want to help people make whatever they're doing work better.\" And at that time, I remember seeing on the television show Danny Thomas, they were complaining because this guy was going to come in and he was the efficiency expert. I said, \"Well, I want to be an efficiency expert.\" And lo and behold, I'm still getting to do that after all that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3794.58262,3874.4"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Even as a young boy, you already knew that that's what you wanted to accomplish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3874.4,3879.38488"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, cause you look around and everything is broken. Somebody got to be able to make it work better. So, I just kind of always wanted to make things work better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3879.38488,3888.16"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember your first car?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3888.16,3890.65986"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. My first car, my granddad, Dan, gave it to me. He, he had gotten sick and he'd stopped driving. And so he gave, he gave me a 1962, I think it is, Mercury Montclair. What's weird about that car is, Ford had made cars, and they had a funny roof line, and so it had a power rear window. Not the side windows, but in the rear. And so, so, the thing was like a land yacht. So, here I am in 1970, '71 driving around in this boat. But the cool thing about it was it had this power rear window.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3890.65986,3938.47973"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e That's great. What color?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3938.47973,3939.42693"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No air conditioner, but it had a power rear window. That was my very first car. The first car I bought was a little Plymouth Satellite. And believe it or not, the thing was only six years old back then, and so, here I am. I bought a car that was six years old. I paid cash for it, 750 dollars. If I could only get those prices now. Paid cash for it, brand new. Well, six years old, so to me, it was brand new. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3939.42693,3978.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you ever buy a plane?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3978.0,3979.86"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3979.86,3980.25556"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3980.25556,3981.05441"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Planes are too expensive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3981.05441,3982.62889"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Just curious and if you were one of those people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=3982.62889,3985.2527"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e One of my best friends in college, guy named, by the name of Bill Hester. He actually is a graduate of Hume-Fogg there in Nashville, technical school, and he was also a ROTC student at the same time that I was. He actually did buy a plane. He and another couple of students bought a old rinckety Cessna back in, in college. 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He and, he and a couple of couple other guys. They bought that first plane back then. I think he bought a couple after that. But not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4014.03234,4028.16"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. You remember your first movie that you went to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4028.16,4032.16535"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, my first movie was uh, 2000 BC. Had Raquel Welch in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4032.16535,4042.0531"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes, I know the movie that you're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4042.0531,4044.64154"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Is it 2000 or 10,000 whatever it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4044.64154,4046.33649"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4046.33649,4047.55"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And it was over at the Roxy. That was my first movie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4047.55,4051.57185"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e How old were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4051.57185,4052.52088"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I was, I was dating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4052.52088,4054.68455"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so it was later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4054.68455,4056.02"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the reason I remember it. I was dating back then. But uh, that was my first movie, because back at the time, they what they call them, the Coca Cola movies on Saturday, and if you had enough bottle tops, kids would save up the bottle tops, trade them in, and they come to the movie. I wouldn't do that because I said, \"Hey, it can't be, the movies can't be too good if you can get in just with bottle tops.\" So I never went to any of those, but by the time I got to high school, you know, I saved up, and so, I would go see the movie there in the Roxy. 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The Capitol was up the street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4092.66,4095.2873"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, yes, yes. And was it integrated or segregated?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4095.2873,4099.94469"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, but it was integrated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4099.94469,4101.00135"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e It was in, I thought you were, you would have been older. So, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4101.00135,4103.96"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e It was integrated. It was always integrated, as far as I know, my entire childhood. The reason I remember that is because my dad, by my dad, growing up in Pine Bluff, he would tell us about the stories of them having to go and sit in a balcony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4103.96,4121.6233"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, right, yes. And so, we had been talking while you were out and about things we had forgotten to ask, and you had alluded to, you know, that the threat of violence, and we had done another interview that we'd talked about the church burnings and those. Do you have any recollection of any of that when you were growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4121.6233,4144.739"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e A couple of similar things. My mom's church, Faith Temple, Greater Faith Temple, is really just around the corner right from where we lived, so they could walk, but at night they wouldn't. And I remember once uh, mom and granddad, because we live with granddad. Granddad lived with us, and so they were going to church in the middle of the week for like, prayer service. And while they were there, someone threw in a smoke bomb, a tear gas bomb, and that was in mid '60s, I want to say '65, '66, somewhere around there. That's the only incident that they had. But of course, you know, you're thinking somebody bombed the church. Well, it was a smoke bomb, but it's still a bomb, still, nevertheless. So that happened. And then, a lot of black people weren't voting. So, you know, that's when the voting drives kicked off. And I remember asking my granddad, you know, about voting, and he said, \"Nah, not going to do, not going to be involved in that.\" Because, you know, I think back then they had to, almost, you had to answer some questions  before they'd allow you to register. And he was always afraid of that. My mom's, mom's dad, my granddad, he, he couldn't read, and so, he figured there was no way he was going to be able to pass the test. As it happened, there was an old, there was a local grocery store called the Bargain Store, and it was on the corner of where, I guess it was Corlew, I guess whatever the name of it is now, Serra Chevrolet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4144.739,4252.17884"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4252.17884,4252.77674"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e On the corner of, what street is that? Eighth Street, Eighth and College. There's a, one of the car lots there. There was a grocery store there named the Bargain Store. And the people who ran that store, they were always asking all the black folks, \"Are you going to vote?\" Because the guy, one of, the son was going to run for sheriff, I think it was. And so he, \"Mr. Dan, I appreciate it if you'd vote for me.\" Well, Granddad would say, \"Yeah,\" but he, he was afraid. But as it turned out, I don't know if they suspended the test that day or whatever, but he registered, and he voted, because the man who ran the Bargain Store, his son said, \"Mr. Dan, you gonna vote for me?\" But before that, my granddad said, \"Nah, I'm not gonna vote, because, you know, people, people might get upset. People won't like it if we go vote. They don't want us to vote.\" But he, he was encouraged by that, by being asked for his vote. So he, he actually voted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4252.77674,4325.10312"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Do you remember the first time you voted?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4325.10312,4326.98547"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e First time I voted was when, I don't think, I didn't vote in college, because I don't even remember what the rules were. I think I thought that you couldn't vote unless you were at home. So, so I know I didn't, I didn't vote in college. I think the first time I voted was after I'd graduated, and we were still here for that first, that, that time period I told you before we went active duty. Yeah. I think I voted then. So, what '74.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4326.98547,4361.98"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. That was your first, yeah, first moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4361.98,4366.06"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Hadn't missed since.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4366.06,4367.29992"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, (laughing) exactly, um yes. You're, '52, '57 to '58 is around the time of the Clinton 12, when you said about the smoke bomb, that's in Clinton, Tennessee. You know, the first, really, the first attempt at integration um, or desegregation, you should say. Because they themselves say it wasn't really integration, you know, and I agree with them and that whole thing. But, do you remember, because that made national news, and Governor Clement sent the National Guard at the time to deal with all of that. I don't know if you have any memory of it or anything that you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4367.29992,4413.17147"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e It was '57, '58?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4413.17147,4414.38603"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Be around '57, you were so young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4414.38603,4417.22"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but I always watch the news, even today, and so, I remember it being a lot of activity. And you know how kids say, when the adults were talking, they were talking about it, and they would come on, and I don't remember if it was Cronkite or his predecessor. It was on and they were talking about it. And of course, we're asking about it, but it hadn't happened here. And I remember asking my granddad, called him Big Daddy. I said, \"Big Daddy, what, where is Clinton?\" And he was trying to tell me, and I'm still trying to understand, because I hadn't been anywhere 'cross. We used to call it, I hadn't been across the bridge too many times. \"Where's Clinton?\" And he was trying to describe it to me, but I remember that there was some concern, but not as much here, because that's over there, and they aren't doing that here, so don't you, you don't have to worry about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4417.22,4473.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, yeah. But you all were following it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4473.0,4475.75332"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4475.75332,4476.1043"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I mean, I would imagine at the time, even though it seems to have, like, been some, to me, it just kind of got washed under after really Little Rock and everything else that most people don't remember Clinton a lot of times or talk about it, but being a Tennessean at the time and a young man and something your parents would have been very much watching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4476.1043,4499.15924"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I kind of associated it also with, with Little Rock, because, you know I told you, my dad was from Pine Bluff. Well, Pine Bluff's about an hour away from Little Rock. I'd been to Little Rock. My grandmother, when she passed away, she was at a hospital in Little Rock. So, I would hear Clinton, I would hear comparison to Little Rock. I remember what happened in Little Rock and how, how you would treat it in Little Rock at that time, so, I could make a connection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4499.15924,4525.28"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4525.28,4528.21"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e What about Nashville, like the sit ins, or the bombings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4528.21,4532.48"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e We'd see 'em and on TV. But unlike when, when you guys grew up, and even like now, it would be a rare thing for us to go to Nashville. So, so going to Nashville, you know, you guys might go two or three times in a week. We might go two or three times in a year. And so, that was far away. You know, you go to Nashville, that's far away. And so, we knew about things happening in Nashville. I knew that my mom and Big Daddy, they, you know, they liked Governor Clement. And so, if something came on and he was talking, we pay attention. But it was still kind of distant. And Clarksville was still a pretty slow and even pace, and you just kind of stayed in your lane. Don't make any trouble. And so, it's kind of just the way things were. It hadn't, it hadn't taken hold here. I don't even know if we had an NAACP chapter here at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4532.48,4596.22695"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Right. Um, you said, do you remember first going to Nashville?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4596.22695,4603.72"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I think probably the first time I remember, recall going to Nashville, I was probably in maybe the fourth or fifth grade. And then, of course, it was only 41A. So, I remember, you know, we drive up 41A and mom, dad be talking about how they'd gone, because my dad was a soldier, so of course, he'd been to Nashville many times, so we were real anxious about it. And on the way, just there, at Pleasant View, was the blanket store. And so, they said \"We're going to get to stop at the Blanket Store.\" Stopped at the Blanket Store, like folks stopping at Bu-cee's now. \"Gonna get to go to the Blanket. Oh, man, heard so much about this place. Gonna get to stop at the Blanket Store!\" (laughing) So, so, we stopped at the Blanket Store, you know, we thought, man, we have arrived. What is it going to be like when we get to Nashville? And there was this other store right when you get to Nashville. There was a little neighborhood market, and I can't remember the name of the market, but the guy had a pet monkey, and so I remember asking mom when we were at the Blanket Store. I said, \"Well, where's the monkey?\" She said, \"He's not here. He's at the store in Nashville. Just wait till we get to Nashville, you'll get to see this guy with this monkey.\" Oh man, this is gonna be great. But we were driving to Nashville, and when we top the hill on 41A and you could see downtown, L and C tower, oh man, you know, Oz It's like, it's like, \"We've arrived. We finally got there. It's taking us all day,\" but, yeah, probably, you know, only maybe an hour, hour and a half. But man, Nashville, we're in the big city now, you know, I can get, I can, I can show off my good shoes, you know. It was, it was special. But we only got to go, we only went maybe a couple, three times in a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4603.72,4723.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Just because was it just like a?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4723.0,4724.62032"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, back then, there were trading stamps. And so, I don't know if you remember what I'm talking about. When you go to the grocery store, you buy and they give you stamps, and you put them in a coupon in a book, and I remember, you know, we done that for years, and then finally, we got enough where we think we can get some real value out of trading these in. So, I remember us, you know, loading all those things into some boxes, and we were gonna take them to Nashville and we're gonna trade them in. And we did. But of course, you don't get very much. You're thinking you got hundreds and hundreds of books of stamps. And so, you're going to be able to get a TV and, you know, an electric blanket, and I think we probably got maybe something worth maybe, maybe between fifty and a hundred dollars' worth of items. You know, just, you mean, \"We've been saving all these stamps for all these years, and this is all we got! I'll never save stamps.\" I think it's kind of why I don't even hardly use coupons now. If they're giving it away, it must not be much, worth too much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4724.62032,4794.58"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e All the time involved here. (laughing) Yeah. Nice family, family trips. Did y'all have a pet? Pets?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4794.58,4803.28049"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e We had a few, but no indoor pets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4803.28049,4807.87075"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No indoor pets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4807.87075,4808.51693"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No indoor pets. Now, dogs are meant to be outside. So, they were outside. So I had, I had a puppy that raised from a puppy, a terrier. Name was Rex, and, yeah, we had pets. My brothers had a, Keith had a dog, kind of a mixed breed named Shep. And so, he had a dog. Donnie wasn't in to dogs. He was in to football and baseball.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4808.51693,4836.42528"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So he was the athlete of you all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4836.42528,4840.99242"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, he's the athlete, he's the tallest, he's the biggest, but he was the athlete. I'm the shortest, I'm the runt. Yeah, both of them are, I think Keith is six two. I think Donnie's six three. I'm the itty bitty. Barely made six feet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4840.99242,4860.69501"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. Anything else you can think of that I haven't asked?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4860.69501,4866.66"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e You Big Star Trek the Next Generation fan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4866.66,4869.45667"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Star Trek, every generation, all of them. I just, just watched the newest one this this past weekend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4869.45667,4878.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, Discovery or uh, Picard? Which one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4878.0,4883.18"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e No, the newest one is Brave New---","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4883.18,4888.65368"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, Brave New World.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4888.65368,4889.92948"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, so I'm watching that one now, but all the rest of them, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4889.92948,4895.6"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e I've, I skipped all the new stuff, except for season three of Star Trek Picard, which it, well, it's basically the Next Generation movie that we wanted, but we never got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4895.6,4908.4"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. And then, so you didn't, you didn't do Discovery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4908.4,4915.00519"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4915.00519,4916.89151"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e (laughing) You can look at that later. You can go back, fortunately now with, with, with Wi Fi and subscriptions, you can go back and look at almost anything. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4916.89151,4927.01"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I, I've been, I went back to Deep Space Nine. 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I hadn't started that one back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4931.38941,4935.06"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e That one, that was great. I was, I'm an Army brat, so I was, like, I was in Germany at the time. 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Yeah, and he was also, you know, he's a retired officer. They elected him the president, I guess, of Troy or M O [unintelligible], whatever is the military officers' association. Yeah, he's still, he still has a private practice out by Peachers Mill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4942.15131,4966.14111"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4966.14111,4969.02103"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e But yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4969.02103,4970.4748"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4970.4748,4971.01964"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, I just saw Star Trek and was like \"Ahh.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4971.01964,4973.48471"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a good question. 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I'll ask a follow up question on your bio. Um, it says that you're graduated from Vanderbilt University's Owen Graduate School of Management, Leadership Development Program. When did you go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4978.06,4992.28456"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what happened is, while we were out there, while I was at Fort Campbell, set up a program for the executive training program for the department heads, and that resulted in us being certified in some leadership areas. So, I don't think I've got it, well, yeah, there it is up there in the '90s, '95.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=4992.28456,5014.94"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. I see it, yeah, great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5014.94,5017.28"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's a program. It's kind of in between an MBA and a PhD.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5017.28,5026.42"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you set up that program too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5026.42,5028.93822"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e I set it up, and we were running it at Fort Campbell, for all the department heads. All department heads at the time, they all went through it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5028.93822,5036.44296"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, that's great. So, that's something you felt like would help as far as strategy, leadership, all of you to be on the same page?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5036.44296,5046.23422"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And, and we're doing something similar to that here. So, all the department heads we've got, we call it T3, I call it T3 you see, I mean down the map, my T3 manual here, but we have, it's quite as it's kept and most citizens don't know, we we've got a strategic plan we've been working from since day one, and we have eight particular areas that we focused all the city departments on. They've got goals and objectives and, and we keep track of how things are going, so even though we keep reading in social media that we have no idea what we're doing, and there isn't a plan. The things that we're doing all fit into that plan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5046.23422,5089.54"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And so, you've got, like a management program, a leadership program for you all here too, that you've?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5089.54,5096.62"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, the department heads have participated each year, continuing, and we've also cascaded that downward so that all their deputies are involved. We have a consultant that we're using here, Solutions 21, that's put together a program just for us. The county has something similar to it. And so, all the department heads, all their deputies, and that has caused us internally to create a program, a Leadership Academy, for our lower tier employees to be able to kind of look forward, have a vision for becoming a department head or a section head. And so, matter of fact, the mayor's executive assistant is participating in that, and then next year, I'll have my executive assistant participating in the Leadership Academy. So, we've got tiered leadership development from top to the bottom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5096.62,5155.12"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, and that really goes together with your, your whole leadership strategy, because you've got Mayor's Youth Leadership Council. 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One of the council, Councilmen's kind of taking, taking the lead on, we're taking a hard look at how the boards and commissions are formed and how they function. And then we're probably going to launch, or relaunch an initiative to kind of get them more focused and more involved community engagement wise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5170.66383,5216.3187"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's cool. Because, I mean, I think, I would think after covid, what was that like? 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We kept everything going, and, like I said, it was quiet, but only because people weren't up here, but we still, we still kept, kept things going. Had it happened at any other time, we'd have been hamstrung. It'd been very difficult, but because we had the technology throughout city government, we were able to keep going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5226.56209,5278.6"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And so, you feel, I'm sure, better prepared if that were to happen again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5278.6,5283.72"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e If that were to happen. Matter of fact, one of my, one of my pet peeves, is disaster preparedness. And so, we instituted what we call an all call. And periodically we'll test it out. And what we do is, is, for example, when it snows,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5283.72,5300.7"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e This comes from your VIP walking in the snow moment. 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We use that for weather, but we also use it if there's tornadoes or bad weather, all that's going on in the background when all the citizens think we're at home asleep, but we're not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5304.44,5332.3"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, you're still working. 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So, he gets your notes from the night before when he gets here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5361.85403,5366.3"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e Or the department heads do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5366.3,5367.98959"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, from one o'clock in the morning when you fired it off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5367.98959,5370.4696"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e We already told them, ignore the time. But just, you know, respond when you get in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5370.4696,5375.42"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, yeah, absolutely, because you got your own working practice. So, you and your wife still, are still here in Clarksville. 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Grew up here, and we plan to leave and for our home going from here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5385.94,5394.0"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. Well, thank you for your time. Thank you for your service. Thank you for the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5394.0,5400.7623"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5400.7623,5401.67787"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e I will say Demetrius Hnarakis had a hand in this interview. 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But if you have anything else you want to add Demetrius, do you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5401.67787,5413.62229"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Not to the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5413.62229,5415.07492"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5415.07492,5417.11841"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDemetrius Hnarakis:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, thank you for, thank you for allowing us to do this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5417.11841,5420.46134"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5420.46134,5420.82265"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJames Halford:\u003c/strong\u003e My pleasure. I hope, I hope it's useful. I hope when people see this in the future, they know, hey, he was a real person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119#t=5420.82265,5427.7151"},{"id":"https://montgomerycountyarchives.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3373/collection_resources/154943/file/284119/transcript/83655/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShana Thornton:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, (laughing) yes, yeah. 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